Thursday, September 24, 2015

Thursday Twister: Diesel Power

Given the recent news about Volkswagen's unique emissions calibration techniques (it is okay for GE to not pay corporate tax on profit because of creative accounting, but creative calibration gets the CEO sacked?) it seemed only appropriate to built a list of the diesel engines sold in passenger cars in the USA for this week's Thursday Twister...but no Volkswagens.



Here is the challenge -- put together a list of all passaenger cars sold in the USA (post 1950) that had available diesel power, but no VW/Audis or cars that use their engines. 

Standard contest rules are as follows: 

1. Only one car per comment (be sure to hit the refresh button on your browser before you post in case someone else has posted since you loaded the page).  Do not nest the replies, just reply to the main post -- if you reply to someone else's comment it should be in reference to his comment and not another submission.

2. The contest will end in on Sunday, Sept 27, 2015.

3. One submission per make/model.

4. Each car must be a production model.

5. No anonymous submissions -- pick a name with the Name/URL dropdown.

Ready....Set...choke on fumes! 

61 comments:

  1. I just saw a newer(>2013) Malibu in the middle of nowhere (South Central NE) getting filled up at the diesel pumps. I drove over to save the seemingly clueless lady who would have to jam it in anyway, then saw the "diesel" emblem.

    So 2014 Malibu Diesel...

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    1. ESK -- Are you sure it wasn't a Chevy Cruze? They sold a 2014 Cruze diesel in the states, but from what I can gather from GM's website, the Malibu diesel isn't offered in the USA. They did make one for Europe, and it could be a GM owned test car. -Vince

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    2. Upon further inspection, Vince, I stand corrected.

      Chevrolet Cruz diesel

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  2. I'll start with the worst I can remember, GM 5.7 litre from the late '70s found in all manner of barges.

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    1. i sadly have one sitting at my shop in the form of a 1983 olds 88.

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  3. Peugeot 504. Always seemed to be at least one sooty example in every college town I lived in.

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    1. Serves me right for scanning this page quickly... I read "Chevrolet Corvette" and it stopped my eyeballs dead in their tracks...

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    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54JCBM0MJpY

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    3. Ummm.... you'll notice that at 0:49 the Ram has a red-light... he jumped the gun by a lot. But cool coal burner anyway!

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    1. This one with the 2.8L inline-4. In 2007 and later it was the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the borrowed Merc diesel.

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  6. there were like 4 versions of an Olds diesel in the late 70s, early 80s. lots of GM cars from that list.

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  7. 1982 Datsun Maxima Diesel....my first car.

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  8. IH Scout II Turbo-Diesel (Nissan SD33T propulsion unit)

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  9. OM617a from my '82 300D Turbo Mercedes-Benz....I'd have posted the D24 I owned, but that's a VW/Audi Diesel engine, made with 6-cylinders, for Volvo

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  10. 80's Toyota Camry's had a diesel engine option.

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  11. 80's LN50 / LN60 -series Toyota Pickups with 2.4-litre 2L diesel or 2L-T turbo diesel options.

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  12. mid 80's Isuzu Trooper Diesel

    [img]http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1986-Isuzu-Trooper-03-640x454.jpg[/img]

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    1. Whoops, not sold on these shores.

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    2. the trooper with a diesel was indeed available in north america. i know of two that are still used for daily service in the pacific north west. i have driven one of them and it is PAINFULLY slow.

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    3. No, I'd written the Austin/Rover Montego

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  14. Don't forget the Buick version of that 5.7th heaven. My cousin still drives his, got it in exchange for diesel repair( on another diesel vehicle). Nice and slow

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  15. Apparently a handful of AMC Eagles were converted to oil burners:

    [img]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%2780_AMC_Eagle_Turbo-Diesel_ad.jpg#/media/File:%2780_AMC_Eagle_Turbo-Diesel_ad.jpg[/img]

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  16. The GE comment is sort of a cheap shot. Profit is how companies operate and without it they don't operate. If you want to complain about how much some CEOs get paid that's different. What someone at VW did was a little different. The environmental impact was probably nil but they also hammered their competitors with this trickery and that probably means jobs lost or some number of new jobs not created. They kept other companies out of the segment because they appeared to be able to make an engine nobody else could.

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    1. Personally, I like a good conspiracy theory. The plan was hatched during Piech's reign. He was still p-o'd at Winterkorn who he always regarded as a poseur. Winterkorn succeeded in having Piech booted off the board, so Piech leaked the diesel tweak to oust Winterkorn and get him replaced with one of Piech's wunderkind from Porsche. Nothing like a disgruntled Porsche cousin to keep things interesting in the family.

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    2. Yeah, the thing is that what GE does is legal under current tax law and what VW did wasn't. We can argue about the form of Crapitalism that we have here in the U.S. where GE can influence the Gummint's implementation of the tax law to favor GE in exchange for campaign contributions and construction contracts using GE products. Don't get me started on Ex-Im and GE. Free markets and free minds...

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  17. Lincoln Mk VII
    [img]http://www.classiclincolns.com/Gallery/albums/1MRBP98LXEY678381/1MRBP98LXEY678381_035.sized.jpg[/img]

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  18. Wonder bread truck. Dont know the make/model, but thats where the ratrod kats get them 4bts.

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  19. BMW 524td

    [img]http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/BMW-E28-524td.jpg[/img]

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  20. Was there not a V-6 from GM also not sure if it was the 5.7 with front cylinders cut off for midsize cars....another POS

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    1. Yeah, think it was a 260 and think it made about 9 HP.

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  21. BMW M21 used in a variety of vehicles domestic and foreign.

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  22. Mercedes-Benz E320 Bluetec

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  23. the renault fuego turbo diesel.

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  24. Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz (diesel engine sourced from Mazda)

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  25. 85-87 XJ Cherokee had a Renault-sourced turbo diesel option

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  26. Royal Infield Motorcycles India !

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    1. How about a Kawasaki KLR 650 diesel?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EFr1bWQyls

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  27. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w89EEl2Q7bI

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  28. 82-85 S-10 Blazer option

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  29. International Scout Diesel

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  30. AM General Hummer H1:

    Actually know someone that owns the gas fueled variant, and it's a big stupid thing. The location of the starter doesn't lend itself well to water crossings, and the petrol-powered H1's starter seems particularly hydrophobic. He's on his fourth starter now.

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  31. Full Size C/K Blazer/Jimmy/Suburban

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  32. Dodge Ram (Cummins inline six)

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  33. I was shocked to see that the lada Niva was never made in a coal-burner!

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  34. Ford/International Powerstroke/Navistar/IDI found in International 4700 and other Series Trucks, Ford F-Series and many, many more

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