Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Mid Week Match-Up: Electrified

It is the Wednesday, so that means it's time for another edition of Daily Turismo's weekly game of don't get eaten by the rabid chimp, also known as Mid Week Match-Up!  Everybody says the future is going to be all about electric cars (charged by solar panels or the exothermic sweat/tears of poor people -- this is still under debate), but expect some kind of battery and a spinning electric thingy.  This week let's look for the best sub $5,000 electric cars we can find.

Here we've got a few Electric Stinger three wheeled monstrosities being offered by the widow of the builder.  This first one is running/driving and offered for $4,900 buy-it-now, first one needs to be finished and is offered for $3,500 buy-it-now.  Either way you go, this is a whole lot of electric trike for a little bit-o-cash.


What can you find that is powered by electrons for less than five thousand smackeroos.  Comments below.

25 comments:

  1. Electric 914 in Los Gatos, CA, $5K

    [img]http://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_k3xfd6n3UMI_600x450.jpg[/img]

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    1. Waste of a nice looking 914. There are junkyards full of Geo Metros.....

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  2. that stinger has been for sale for a while.

    how about a quietkat


    [img]http://images.give5tocancer.com/3411.jpg[/img]

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  3. For $3,250, how about a Solectrica Force! (Geo Metro)

    [img]http://images.craigslist.org/00a0a_67cehSwprI9_600x450.jpg[/img]

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    1. The Solectria Force was just about as good as it got in the EV world at that point. Things have moved on since then.

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    2. I rest my case. By using a Geo Metro, both the gas-powered and electric-powered fleets were improved simultaneously.

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  5. What about this....(sorry for the duplicate post)

    https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/4992471298.html

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    1. FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS?

      That design popped onto the market back in the early '70s, it's not much more than a golf cart and a few sheets of ABS plastic.

      In perfect shape, okay, maybe there's a Jay Leno with enough wallet to buy the thing and donate it to some museum, or add it to the Bad Old Seventies wing of his collection.

      But it's not something you're gonna drive.

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  6. Chevrolet S-10

    [img]http://i.imgur.com/9Zda780.jpg?1[/img]

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    1. how much would it cost to charge 14 batteries Just to go 40 miles? and how many charges do you get from a regular car battery before they crap out? I need to know.

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    2. Probably...

      1) Not that much
      2) That's what they (not she) said
      3) I don't know
      4) You and me both

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    3. Found this on the web:

      "I built a 2001 Chevy S10 Extended cab pickup to drive back and forth to work but by the time I got it done, I moved and now I have a 80 mile drive to work. Since finished I have drove it probably 300-400 miles and it works great but I drive too far now. This is a totally electric truck that runs on 12-12volt batteries (144 volt system), it has an onboard charger, so you just plug it in and when it's charged you can go. The charger works on regular 120volt plugs or can also be plugged into 220volts to charge faster. I has a range of about 30 miles, but has room to install 12 more batteries which would double it's range. Top speed is over 70 mph, but the faster you go the less range you have.

      I used the following:
      1 FB1-4001A Advanced DC Motor with dual shaft ( 72V - 144V ) 18HP - 30HP
      1 1231C-8601 Curtis Controller 96V - 144V 500 Amp Limit
      1 Aluminum Plate/ heat sink compound/ 12V fan
      1 PB-6 Curtis Potbox
      2 Albright Contactor SW-200 (12V coil)

      BATTERY SYSTEM
      1 Quick Charge Charger Programmable SCPX14420 20Amps 144VDC input 120 or 230VAC
      30 amp 144 volt to 12 volt DC to DC Converter

      12 DEKA Deep Cycle Batteries

      5 speed manual transmission NV1500
      Direct drive adapter clutch eliminator
      12 volt vacuum pump for power brakes

      Simpson amp and volt gauges
      Air shocks

      I checked the power consumption: I charged the batteries, then drove
      20 miles then recharged the batteries while monitoring how much
      electricity it took. It took 8.2 KWH or 66 cents. By comparison if I'd have bought 66 cents worth of gas and went 20 miles that would be over 120 MPG."

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    4. I know this is a bit of a thread-jack but my high school engineering team campaigned an electric-converted Diesel Rabbit ("the electric hare") in the Tour-de-Sol a few times. I was never a driver (weighed too much ha ha) but a lot of the cars on these pages look like the hack jobs... er... I mean "participants" in the Tour in the mid 90's.

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  7. You can get a new, fresh off the dealer's lot Fiat 500e for under a hundred bucks a month, which really makes any consideration of a used EV moot.

    At least if you live somewhere they're available - it's a "compliance car", the creation and subsidy of which is the price Fiat and other automakers pay for being able to sell Jeeps and Chargers in California.

    And the damn thing is a blast to drive. Go try one if you can get there.

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    1. I will note that the Chevy Spark EV is faster, and has far and away the best EV powertrain short of a Tesla, but it's built on top of an unredeemably crappy car. Maybe the next Spark will be nicer.

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    2. Interesting evaluation - a good friend (and occasional DT commenter / tipster) has a Spark EV and reviews the Fiat 500e with the same sentiment you use towards the Spark - that the Fiat is cheap, but is a terribly crappy car.

      I've driven a standard 500 and the aforementioned Spark EV. I can't get over how ugly the Spark is, but damn is it fun to drive.

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    3. The Fiat's a real car - you can see out of it, the controls make sense, the seats are decent.

      The Spark meets none of those criteria.

      The Spark has four doors, but still only four seats.

      No question the Spark is quicker, but I can't get over the crappy seats and crappy sight lines.

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    4. "which really makes any consideration of a used EV moot."

      plenty of mechanically inclined people like the challenge of a DIY garage build EV (or taking someones half baked project and carrying it forward) for any number of good reasons, so consideration of a used one actually seems quite resolved.

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    5. Oh yes, I understand the attraction. But the traditional approaches to this - big DC motors and lead-acid batteries - typically give you something with a sub-50mph top speed and a 30 mile range. Nice experiment, but it ain't transportation. The aftermarket AC motors and controllers are pricey as hell, I haven't looked around at whether anyone's selling actively-cooled modular Li-Ion batteries for EV use.

      It would be nice to see more of the Sparks and Leafs and 500es end up in junkyards, or purchasable as salvage wrecks, but as most of these things go out the door as leases we'll see what the manufacturer decides to do if they take back a wreck.

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  8. That electric 914 I might actually be unashamed to drive without a ski-mask during the day. These fellers, however...

    Do not want.

    Do not want.

    Do not want.

    Do not want.

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  10. I have one of these that I bought off CL for $100. It is pretty awesome
    [img]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--s62FCjrf--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/783759867946486443.jpg[/img]

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    1. Check car-part.com for a Powerstroke swap, my understanding is that you can find them fairly cheap.

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