Tuesday, February 25, 2014

10k: A Tale Of Two Triumphs: 1971 & 1972 Triumph GT6 Mark III

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a critic as: "one who expresses a reasoned opinion on any matter especially involving a judgment of its value, truth, righteousness, beauty, or technique."  Here at the Daily Turismo we take pride in not just regurgitating the latest listings of a pre-ordained set of cars deemed "cool" by internet pundits and strive to express an opinion on the cars we feature.  We are critics!! Hear us roar!!  Unfortunately, the use of the word reasoned is often a stretch....anyway...today we bring two cars, similar in their condition and both bidding on ebay with a few days to go and we will dissect them with a freshly inked fountain pen in the categories of value, truth, righteousness, beauty and technique.  In one corner we have the a maroon 1971 Triumph GT6 Mk III currently bidding for $5,300 with 3 days to go in Peculiar, MO and in the other corner is a white 1972 Triumph GT6 Mk III currently bidding for $6,100 in Galion, OH with 5 days to go.


Starting off with an easy category, let's look at the technique of each seller.  Both sellers are using a run-of-the-mill private auction, but the white car has no reserve and a seller with the name Investments 2001, with an ebay description of Based in United States, investments2001 has been an eBay member since Oct 18, 2001.  Sort of gives you the impression that this dude bought a bunch of old British cars in 2001 and is now trying to offload them for profit.  The red car on the other hand has a reserve and is offered from a seller with zero recent feedback and registered on ebay literally last week.  Yikes!  Further internet sleuthing unearths that Desneux Motorsports was founded recently by Chris Desneux, has a brand new internet website and is located in Peculiar, MO -- everybody has got to start somewhere right?  The biggest difference in technique however, is the use of crappy 640 pixel wide images in the snow by Investments2001, while Desneuxmotorsports uses proper 1600-pix wide image.  In an ebay ad, good photos trump all other information and the prize for technique goes to the red robin.


Frankly, the content of the description on both of these ads is appalling. I would have expected better from anyone who has sold, or is planning on selling a car on ebay.  The red car ad is particularly barren, with zero details on condition of any components, problems, recent work -- just a few lines about the miles looking original but cannot be verified and a set of California blue plates that expired in the 1970s and were probably never associated with the car and just used for pics (we've seen that trick before).  However...one small sparkle of truth shines free in the white knight, when the seller says that he was "asked all day today
"what is that, or that's so cool.""  This isn't like the time I had this thing on my neck and people were asking "what it that;" but I know an actual bona fide GT6 owner and enthusiast (not the Hack Mechanic, he hates the GT6 like it tried to eat his children) who says that his rusted hulk of a GT6 attracts crowds at his yearly pilgrimage to the Monterey Historics.  He claims to have once almost run over a small dog due to the  crowds of Japanese tourists following him around.  Truth goes to the white knight.


Beauty is easier quantify, but more difficult to judge when you have cars that are so similar.  The maroon color of the red robin is so dark that combined with the liveresque shape of the GT6 it almost looks like something you pull from the guts of a turkey on thanksgiving morning before roasting it.  White on the other hand...it would look great with a racing stripe, a few numbers or some "Fred's Towing and Bait Shop" decals, but as is it looks like a fleet car for a local city entity.  You could stick a round City of Van Nuys decal on the side and never get another parking ticket in The Valley.  Beauty goes to the red robin, because red is a color, white is base coat.


The word righteous comes from ye old English rihtwīs, which mean right & wise.  The modern definition puts a religious and moral spin in it, but in this case we need only to look at the routing of wires/cables under the hoods of the two cars, for as it is written in the Book of Lucas, Chapter 2, verses 19-22;

He whoeth shall route thy wires cleanly under thy hood shall be the righteous man,
and his maiden shall wear shoes suitable for pushing a stalled automobile.
The prize for righteousness goes to the red robin for tidy spark plug wiring.


Value is a very subjective term, but it could be considered a summation of all the previous points, and the red robin has so far beaten the white knight on 3 of 4 points.  To add insult to injury the current bidding price on the white knight is also slightly higher (albeit, with fewer days remaining), but the red robin has an unknown reserve...and for this reason, the value award goes to the white knight.

In conclusion, we have created a critical analysis of these two GT6's instead of our regular analysis that just criticizes.  Final score; red robin 3 vs white knight 2.


  1. Desneux (vendor of the maroon one) is in Peculiar, not Particular, MO. Somehow that doesn't sound any better.

    Have always liked the look of these (although I prefer the small-taillight Mk I), but when you stand over the car, you realize how small the cabin is.

    I'm guessing when someone realizes their car was featured on DT they may actually start populating their new business's website with actual information, rather than placeholder text such as "This is where the information of the car goes."

    1. ANCMatt- fixed the typo, thanks for the catch. I find it particularly peculiar that I can proof-read pages of drafts and miss small things like that.
      EIC Vince

  2. Two cars covered in 1/2 the time, with twice the content. That's what gets me here every morning. You had me and Peculiar Exotics lost me, with the kidney-colored turkey guts of the maroon car! Still lots of parts left to get/install in the interior and under the bonnet on the kidney car.

  3. Yes. It's true. As I talk about in my book, I owned a '73 GT6+. It was 1976, when the car was only three years old. And even then, it was a living rolling testament to the fact that every Lucas joke you've ever heard is true. It also proved the theory that the British used up all their good steel in the war and were recycling Spitfires into, uh, Spitfires. The GT6 in particular suffered from the fact that it had that pretty beefy 2.0L six combined with running gear from a Spit, so everything south of the engine -- transmission, differential, universals, half-axles -- would get twisted into pretzels and pounded into corn flakes. Plus, the handling was homicidal. In an attempt to squelch their desire to swap ends, they went from a single leaf spring and a solid rear axle, to a single leaf spring and swing axles, to two leaf springs and swing axles (which is what these MKIIIs should have). Still, they do look a bit like little E Types, they were legitimate chick magnets in the 70s, and that baby six made it move out pretty quick, particularly in second gear.


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